Below are more pics from Day Seven, the last day at Give Kids the World. But first…
Remember the parenting stuff we talked about on Day 1 & 2? I had an interesting thing happen yesterday. We stopped by a restaurant on the way to Darron and Tracy’s house. It was me, Michelle, Darron (our friend from Florida whose home we are staying in), and the kids. We sit down to eat and after a few minutes, Landis decides to act up. He wanted something and Mom told him no. When she got on to him he decided he was going break out into an “I’m not getting my way so I’m going to act like the world is coming to an end ” alternating pout and cry.
Mom and Dad don’t roll like that… you feel me?
He got one warning look from me and I could tell he was still drawing up battle plans so I took Landis by the hand and started to head for the men’s
Landis decided to alert the entire restaurant he was in trouble by howling even louder so I bent down right there in the aisle, put my hand over his mouth to muffle his loudspeaker and whispered in his ear to “s-t-o-p t-h-a-t c-r-y-i-n-g NOW” or else his next character "meet and greet" was going to be the Four Horseman of the Apocalypse. I stood there for a couple seconds until he stopped the wailing (he could see the signs of the times and took heed) and then removed my hand from his mouth to continue to the bathroom.
After a couple of steps, I hear clearly from behind me “well that was ugly!”. I stopped and looked back to my left at this older couple sitting at a table. They were probably in their mid-seventies. I wasn’t sure who said it or even what they meant but when I made eye contact with the grandmotherly lady she said “that was a horrible ugly thing to do” out loud for everyone to hear.
At first, I thought she was talking about Landis’ fussing though it struck me as odd that she would describe it that way. I mean surely she wasn’t describing me disciplining him. Grandparents complain and lament about the permissiveness of parents today, so she must have been talking about Landis, right? Since she decided to make her announcement publicly and, being the reserved person that I am, I decided to respond publicly but with respect (I can’t disrespect the elderly, no matter how obnoxious the situation). Here was the conversation that both the restaurant staff and the other diners witnessed:
“Well that was a horrible ugly thing to do!” she said.
“Pardon me” I replied. “Are you speaking to me? What was horrible and ugly, Ma’am?”
“What you did to that child.”
“Ma’am, I’m not sure I understand. What do you mean ‘what I did to that child’? You mean getting on to him for fussing?”
She explained with quite the indignant tone and expression, “Putting your hand over that child’s mouth. What a horrible thing to do to a child.”
“Ma’am, what would YOU have me do? Would you rather I allow him to cry and fuss and disturb everyone else trying to eat their dinner? Would you like me to let him throw a fit and just ignore him like most parents do today?”
“Yes" she replied and by golly, she meant it.
“So you think that crying, fussing and throwing a fit is okay, but putting my hand over his mouth and telling him to stop is ‘horrible and ugly’?” I asked.
“Yes, that was a mean and awful thing to do.”
“Ma’am, I think the mean and awful thing is parents who let their kids behave like spoiled monsters and make everyone around them suffer while their child throws a temper tantrum. There is nothing horrible or ugly about putting my hand over his mouth and asking him to quiet down.” In my mind I also thought “you’ve GOT to be kidding me… now I can see why parenting skills have all but disappeared in the general population.”.
I was somewhat surprised that a seasoned citizen not only had this opinion but actually called me on the carpet in front of the entire restaurant. Her husband never said a word. I’ll let you figure out the probable dynamics of their relationship.
I took Landis to the bathroom but by then he had totally quieted down. He looked up and me said, “can you believe that woman Dad? Maybe you should put your hand over HER mouth”.
Okay, he didn’t say that, but it was funny wasn’t it? I warned Landis that he better behave and we walked out of the bathroom. The blue-haired woman was standing at the front door of the fine dining establishment (Steak and Shake), glaring at her husband who was still sitting at the table. She had a “would you get a move on or you’re next” look on her face.
As I walked by the old feller, I fought the raging temptation to offer him marriage sympathies but instead said, “Sir, normally you expect folks of your generation to applaud people who actually parent their children and don’t allow them to throw temper tantrums in public. I was shocked to be called ‘horrible and ugly’ for simply putting my hand over his mouth for a couple of seconds to get his attention.”
He gave me a sheepish look, kind of smiled and very softly said something about “it’s okay” or "I won't have to deal with her in heaven"... something like that. He seemed pretty frail, so I didn’t pursue the conversation. I patted him on the shoulder and wished him a great day. I looked back over at Broomhilda who was GLARING at me for talking to her husband (he obviously had not filled out the proper forms to get her permission to speak).
After we sat down, several smiles and nods came from other diners. The waitress came over and apologized, “I’m sorry about that. I can’t believe she did that. I hope it didn’t embarrass you…”
Hah! Little did she know I can’t wait for an opportunity to make a point to publicly about parenting. Have we really got to a point in this culture where putting your hand over a child’s mouth is considered “horrible and ugly” but letting them throw a tantrum, cry and ruin the atmosphere for everyone is perfectly acceptable?
Teaching Moment
Let me take the opportunity to sum up how we handle our small children when they decide to exercise their constitutional right to throw a fit in public.
First, because of consistent rules and discipline at home (you do have consistent rules and discipline in your home, right?), your kids should KNOW tantrums and pouting will not be allowed in public. They KNOW they might get one INSTANT split second to knock off the tantrum or pouting… if they are already being lead away from the table it’s too late, they missed their chance.
Second, if your child is screaming, fussing or otherwise emitting loud and bratty noises, try this revolutionary (but apparently abusive, horrible and ugly) technique: put your hand over their mouth for a few seconds. Why?
Uh… uh… uh… because it immediately shuts them up? Oh yeah, that’s it, I remember now. Of course you don’t want to cover their nose AND mouth
Putting your hand over their mouth does several things: 1) it quiets them; 2) allows you to speak* to them because they do NOT hear you** when they are throwing a fit, c) shows others*** that you are indeed attempting to parent your child and the tantrum is not acceptable, and X) sends an instant and unmistakable message to the child that YOU are in control, not them (O’ the humanity!!! Parents in charge? Won’t that hurt their all important self esteem?)
* Or, for advanced parents, it allows you to bend down and whisper in their ear that the useful portion of their life is about to end if they so much as blink sideways.
** it’s true, try it. Go to public place. Commence to throwing a rip roaring temper tantrum and see if you are listening to the other people who are calling the police.
***public embarrassment over bad behavior is a perfectly legitimate reason to discipline your kids. People have commented to many times to me "you shouldn't discipline your kids just because their whining or fussing makes you look bad". Really? Who said?
C’mon folks… when did we become such weenies? Do you really think putting your hand over their built-in bullhorn is going to hurt their precious all important self esteem? Somebody call the W-A-A-A-A-A-MBULANCE!!!!
Let me make sure I understand this correctly: allowing your kids to be spoiled, throw fits, scream, fuss, whine and generally make YOUR life (and everyone in the vicinity) miserable in public is loving, patient parenting… while actually doing something about it is abusive and will quench their little narcissistic spirits (I haven’t even mentioned the word ‘spanking’ yet… I don’t want to send people into a frenzy).
Our parenting opinion: your children should know - ESPECIALLY WHEN OUT IN PUBLIC - there will be less than zero tolerance for whining, tantrums and being disagreeable. Little Selfish Suzy, Gimmee Jimmy and Tantrum Tony are not going to hold you prisoner and ruin visits to the park, dinner out or family events. You need to employ instant response. If you count to three, or give 27 chances, kids will milk every ounce of any neutral zone you will give. Yes, we occasionally “give a second chance” but it’s not routine, and the kids don’t EXPECT it.
Is your kid screaming and throwing a fit? Put your hand over their mouth so that you can speak to them. If you aren’t brave enough for that, take them outside or to a bathroom. If you can’t muster the backbone to respect yourself, at least respect the other patrons. DON’T IGNORE YOUR MISBEHAVING CHILD IN PUBLIC AND EXPECT THAT EVERYONE SHOULD DO THE SAME. That is the most asinine, ineffective and rude parenting technique that has ever been summoned from the pits of toddler hell.
You are in control of your kids. YOU. You are in charge. You have the power, both physically and emotionally. They should have no doubt of that. This nonsense that using your age, size and physical strength is “teaching your children to dominate those who are smaller” is a bunch of horse puckey. To quote my grandad, that kind of thinking "makes my butt wanna suck a lemon." I don't know that means, but I'm guessing it's bad.
Your children should have no doubt that you have power over them, and that you are ready and willing to exercise it any time its needed.
Oh, that’s horrible and ugly!
More Day Seven Pics – Last Day at Give Kids The World

Abby wanted to see Dora so bad, and she finally
showed up on the last day at GKTW.

Delighted Abby and Cool Spidey... smooth.

Recovered from his early morning fear of
giant rodents and dinosaurs, Landis lounges with Abby
on the big stuffed bear.

Queen Abby.... Make A Wish Princess.

Er... King Landis... King of... something.
I don't know. You figure it out.

This is the roof of the castle. Look closely....
each star represents a child that has stayed at GKTW.

Abby put her star in the wish trunk...

... and the star fairy takes it away and finds a place
for it on the ceiling.

SpideyLandis plays in front of the magic
pillow machine that spits out bubbles.

Abby checks out her pillow from
the magic pillow machine.

Sami, Landis and a big ol' stuffed bear.

Abby and Sami are in the castle forrest.

The gators at Gatorland. It was amazing to see
them. The photos don't really show how big they were.


Not just gators at Gatorland...

Not just animals either...

Landis LOVED the goats. He feed them
and got licked and nibbled more than once.

Normally, Abby cannot be around farm animals
much less touch them, But we let her anyway because
she said "I WISH to feed a goat..." Then we WISHED
to wash her hands about two minutes later.

This fellow was my own personal buddy.
I think he saw a family resemblance in me...
look at him... looks like he found is long lost
twin brother doesn't it?

Ferocious Sami

Abby saves Sami from a sure and gruesome
death in the jaws of the great beast.

Landis REALLY wanted to do this pic,
can't you tell?

Sami and Abby hit the pool at Darron's first thing,
despite the cool weather around 75.

Abby is fascinated by the dolphin statues.

After a long day, Landis finally crashes.

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18 comments:
Hi. I was happy to see your post today! Selfishly I wanted you to stay longer just so I could see more pictures!
Disney world is my most favorite place ever. And I am working in Guatemala so I love little brown babies too! The two together make a good combo. :)
I have been to Disney World Disneyland land about 6 times and never with a child. The wonder and fun they have in their faces is priceless.
Enjoy the more relaxing part of your trip!
Yes parents need to parent, and it is my personal opinion that you handled your situation in a manner that YOU the parent felt would work for YOU and YOUR child. None of us knows what works with other people's children, so who are we to cast stones at someone else's parenting skills.
I still remember dragging a screaming four year old through the mall to get to Lens Crafters on December 23rd. He asked to go to EB Toys and I said NO. How horrible I was to refuse my child a trip to a Toy Store on that date? I certainly did not think so and my line then and now is "And just what part of No do you not understand? The N or the O?" They hate it, but they get it.
Kids need limits and boundaries and it is our job to determine what the limits are and to enforce them and modify them as they grow. Kids are not running the asylum over here!
Could you hear me laughing and cheering all the way from PA to FL?
That was a brilliant post and I couldn't agree more!
I'm horrible and ugly too! And you know what?
God is proud of us!
So there general American parents who don't want to do what is their job regardless of whether or NOT they want to or like it!
I think we could make a fortune selling some backbones - want to join me?
Love and blessings,
Jill
My sons call your type of parenting... "Attitude Adjustments". And it isn't the attitude of the parent that will be adjusted. Because of the way my 11 grands have been raised they all know how to behave in a restaurant, fast food place, musical events, church and in the home.
I will never forget a neighbor of mine who couldn't get her son to do what she told him. She said, 'I am going to count to 10 three more times and you...." I almost fainted !! (By the way, her son grew up to have problems with teachers and eventually the law)
I am one of the 'seasoned" adults and agree with the way you handled the situation with your son the way you did. More power to you and all parents who won't put up with screaming, demanding, unruly and dishonoring kids.
Wish your trip wasn't coming to an end. I have loved going on it with you. Abby has the most beautiful smile in the picture of her w/ Landis (doing his spider move). I love the "Story of the Star Fairy" and just wish there weren't so many stars to hang.
Oh... and are you sure you and your brother weren't triplets?? I can definitely see the resemblances.
love and prayers...
Ann Stegall
Wake Forest, NC
Children give us happiness most of the time. It's great to know that you are doing good job in raising them up and have the opportunity to do so. A lot of parents failed because of so many reasons. Many of them we don't like to hear. But, sometimes the parents have to work to hard just to bring meager food on the table. In doing so, they forgot the binding relationship between parents and children. This particularly happens in third world countries like mine. I know because I see it everyday.
So, parents, just take care of your children the best that you can and submit everything to God so that He can help you how to do it.
;)Luisa
I am so glad you brought up this topic, Brent. I've seen with my own eyes how awful people's parenting skills are nowadays. Kids rule the roost, and are allowed to do as they please, and then they grow up and are disrespectful, getting into trouble with the law, their parents, etc.
I'm also very glad you didn't allow that woman to get away with her nasty comment without speaking to her.
Good for you.
In the eyes of that older lady I guess I'm mean and ugly too. I have a 19 month old and when she wines and cries for no reason other than to get her way I put one finger up to her mouth and tell her it's not okay to scream. I think your parenting skills are right on track and love reading about them.
Thank you for all the updates and pictures of your vacation. It has been a joy to see how your whole family is enjoying the vacation!!
Mary
Loving the pictures from your trip! Disney World is our favorite vacation ever, and we love seeing it (and everything else) through y'all's eyes.
*wild applause* for you, DAD. Maybe if more parents chose to exercise their right to teach their children how to be responsible and accountable, our country wouldn't be going the direction it is now (financially, morally, etc.).
Well, I happen to LOVE your teaching moments. Because I totally agree with all of them. And it is good to hear from other parents who feel the same way. It makes your life (and your child's life) so much happier to actually make an effort to discipline. And I LOVE Abby's hair. I think it actually looks really cute. It looks like a little cute trendy haircut. She might have some talent there! So happy to see you guys having a great time after so much suffering. I know there is still a long road ahead, but so glad you get to do something fun along the way! Enjoy the rest of your time!
I submitted this blog entry to Dr. John Rosemond (http://rosemond.com) as a story he might want to reference in his talks--he has a similar parenting philosophy. You could do his kind of talks too--but you'd be much more of a hoot to watch and listen to!
Why are you never at the restaurants where I go out to eat at?? I have often said I wish that now that smoking had been banned, they would make that section instead for parents with children!! I know there are some sweet and properly parented children left, it just seemst hat when I go to have my dinner, they aren't sitting next to me! About four months ago, I was making a dinner run at KFC (Don't judge me ;) ) and they were out of extra crispy and I had 20 minutes to wait, which was fine. There was a family with about six or seven kids, and I guess the oldest might have been 10 or 11. I was people watching (okay you might have slapped me and told me not to stare!)and could not believe how well these kids behaved, it was AWESOME, they were laughing and enjoying themselves, but they were not loud, they were in their seats, and so well behaved. I too, am like you, and have never been accused of being shy. So, I walked over to the table to tell the mom and dad "I just wanted to say, you have the most WELL BEHAVED children I have seen out in public in a long time, way to go guys, you kids are great!" Mom and Dad seemed genuinely pleased with my comments, and the kids responded with "Thank you, ma'am" as soon as mom said, "What do you say guys?" I think it is sad that this situation has become a rarity, to the point that it is noticed and appreciated. I know you can't avoid meltdowns altogether with a little one, but, you sure can take them out and make them mind, and at least make an effort to teach them... Despite what people may think it is NOT cute for your toddler to crawl under my table, plunge their hand into my breadbasket and take a roll (yes, it happened!) or run back and forth screaming like forlorn hellhounds. , I think a generation got skipped and need advise on how to be a good and effective parent. I know one thing... I am only 24 (25 in feb) but I surely would have been sent to get a switch off the landscaping if I acted like some of the kiddos today. You are not horrible OR UGLY!!! Way to go.
I do not thnk I have smiled so big in a long time. After reading the way you handled Landis and the elderly "lady" I applaud you. I even called my Mom and read it to her. Parenting skills are sadly lacking these days and kids are very quick to take over. Even if this post helps just one parent it was all worth it. It opened my eyes a little more.. Thank you.
I am loving catching up on all these pics and posts. It is such a blessing to see sweet little Abby with her family, looking so healthy and loving every minute of your holidays!
Great parenting post..it's funny how you're kind of 'd##ned if you do and d##ned if you don't'. The general public wants to be around nice, polite, respectful kids, but watch out if we try to train them up that way! It's amazing how people fail to remember that discipline is not a dirty word--it's actually a huge blessing in the life of the one being disciplined. I discipline my kids BECAUSE I love them, because I want life to hold so much more for them than just the instant gratification of getting their way every moment. I know alot of people probably consider us pretty strict parents, but our kids are very connected to us, very loved, and very safe. Even our toddler (2) is learning that it's not ok to just freak out when life doesn't go quite according to her desires.
I could ramble on, but I'll stop. :)
It warmed my heart to see your pics. Especially the inside ceiling of the castle. My son Tobey has a star up there from our visit in 2005. Thank you for bringing back such wonderful memories!
Well we live in a fallen world. What else is there to say?
I am still distracting by the butt wanting to suck a lemon comment.
not that it makes a lot of sense, but it sure is funny!
Brent, that lady that thought you were a pretty horrible guy sure wouldn't have liked me either!
I would do the very same thing with my children. There was never a reason or excuse to be loud, demanding nor disobedient in public. (Oh, yeah, nor at home, but esp. when we were out.) This was just not ever going to be "overlooked," or "okay!"
And, like you, I am not too shy to have spoken up. Probably would do and say something similar like you did. And, with no apologies whatsoever!
And like you, I am surprised that a 70 some year old wouldn't applaud parenting like yours. What's with that???
By the way, lucky for Landis that he didn't get a spanking (a little of discipline in the "woodshed," the bathroom. Smart little one. He knew that dad might have to follow up with some discipline that might hurt a little. (Landis, will be a great daddy one day. He would have learned from a really good daddy!)
So much better for all when they are repentive and a spanking isn't necessary. :)
You guys have had a vacation of a lifetime! Couldn't wish it more for anyone else!
God bless your friends, too, for inviting you to stay with them for some fun, fun, fun, in the sun!
Let's hear it for parents who are not afraid to parent!
P.S. Love your humor! I actually laugh out loud when I read your blog! Who wouldn't?
Bobbie
I wrote a little blog post today, and linked to this parenting story.
:) :) :)
Hi! I just wanted to (in a respectful) way, disagree with you. I 100% agree about house rules being enforced outside of the house, but I don't think tantrums are "bad"... Are they tolerated? No!! But I do believe children express their feelings in whatever way they can, and in some cases a tantrum... I believe in telling the child tantrums ARENT okay, but still validating their feelings by asking them what made them throw that tantrum, and stuff like that. Do you do that? ( that last sentence isnt accusing you of being a bad parent by the way) If you want to reply or talk more about this email me @ alysa.mackay@yahoo.com please dont post this comment because of my email, or just delete the email before you post it...
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